LOOKING TO PRAISE AND WORSHIP JESUS THE CHRIST, THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD. 18 No man has ever seen God at any time; the only unique Son, or the only begotten God, Who is in the bosom [in the intimate presence] of the Father, He has declared Him [He has revealed Him and brought Him out where He can be seen; He has interpreted Him and He has made Him known].

Monday, November 02, 2009

Things

Well, right now my computer is still acting up. Getting to my blog and email is still very hard to do.

I'm currently reading Packer's "Knowing God" . Let's just say that if you are not thankful for everything that is coming your way, good or bad, then that is an indicator of a very shallow knowledge of God. It is high time that we respond to those things the way that the Gospel demands - offering up the sacrifice of praise with thanksgiving. Whatever comes our way is designed by God the Father to conform us to the image of Christ...'Nuf said for now. I'm only about a third of the way through the book.

After I am done with that book I wish to start Michael A.G. Haykin's work on Andrew Fuller "At The Pure Fountain of Thy Word". I'm looking forward to that.

See ya when my computer wills. :-)

Saturday, October 31, 2009

Folks, Some Good Reading

PARTICULAR_REDEMPTION,_fuller.doc

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Thursday, October 15, 2009

David Update

Friends, thanks for your prayers!

Long story short - David is still in the hospital and is in a lot of pain. He still has one of the original three draining tubes coming out of his chest, and the fluid coming out is too thick to allow him to come home. Perhaps tomorrow or Saturday he will come home. We just don't know yet.

Gayla, please update us on Roger in the comments thread here. Thank you.

P.S. I've found a great presentation of the Gospel HERE.

Tuesday, October 06, 2009

Family Matters

Friends, some things to pray about -

Gayla's husband goes in for surgery on October 7.

Second, my own son goes in for surgery on October 9th. It will be a four hour operation to correct his deformed sturnom which is pressing on his heart and lungs. The "painful" (so says the doctor) stay in the hospital will be four days. He will then come home for a six week, and still painful, recovery. Needless to say that blogging is not even on the radar screen for the next several days, so I'll shut the blog down. Thanks for your prayers!

Mark

Saturday, October 03, 2009

Kevin Lane Witnesses To Mark

Folks,
I want to reserve this post and comments thread for a discussion between author Kevin Lane and myself. Please nobody else participate here. Just me and Kevin. Thanks.

Kevin, could you please witness to me in this post? Let's say I'm unsaved and so you come along to present me with the Gospel. I'll repost your respenses in the comment thread here in the post. Again, thanks for the interaction.

Take it away, Kevin...

And this was Kevin's courageous response to me from another blog...
So you’ve got a minute?

Friday, July 31, 2009

An Email Chat With Pastor Reid Ferguson

Sir,

In talking to some free gracers via the blogs I have encountered two who claim that Puritan theology landed them in the emergency room at the hospital. They claim that said theology brought them to such a point of despair as far as assurance was concerned that they ended up being stressed so badly that a trip to emergency was necessary. Is it possible that their claims should be considered? Did the Puritans go too far? Were they really THAT bad as far as assurance in salvation was concerned? No, I'm not about to embrace classic dispy soteriology, but I DO wonder about whether or not time should be given to consider the possibility that the Puritans had gone too far in some areas.

Mark

Pastor Reid's response -

You are quite correct Mark. It is often true that those "serious" about their spirituality, begin the slide into pietism - a kind of self-imposed legalism over oneself, rooted in the exercise of ruthless, regular, self-examination. And, their sense of standing with God flows from how they feel about these self-examinations. While there is a certain measure of self-examination which is OK - especially when one is brought to see there might be an issue below the surface which needs attention - the most regular result is depression. Ones eyes have been turned from Christ as our only righteousness, to preoccupation with remaining sin. The Puritans in some cases drove this pious sounding activity to a tortuous art form. Everyone's assurance of salvation was connected to these exercises. And so precious few of them had any assurance at all. If they did, it was in thinking "at least I'm not as bad as THAT guy".

Calvin on the other hand took an entirely different approach. He told those troubled about their salvation status that the only safe course was to go back and look at the Cross - not at their own "progress". Am I trusting Christ alone? Or am I trusting the progress I think I should have made, or should be making, or that others tell me I have made? So he told them all - just go back and look at the Cross. There is your salvation.

Bunyan's trials over assurance were not resolved (and he suffered excuciatingly for years) until it dawned upon him that his righteousness was not to be detected in his own heart - for he was still full of sin, but was a justified - sinner. Thus he concluded, his righteousness was in Heaven, not in his own heart and mind. He (like Luther) was saved by an alien righteousness, not his own.

This is why Luther's central thesis that the Christian is "simul iustice et peccatore" (simultaneously sinner and saint) is essential. We DO NOT GET RID OF ANY SIN IN THIS LIFE. We do gain ground over some sins - the expression of our sinfulness - but the sin principle remains in us and always looking for ascendancy. Our only hope is in Christ's righteousness IMPUTED to us, not INFUSED within us. Yes, the Spirit has taken up residence and is in the process of freeing us from sin's bondage, but its presence is not one whit lessened until we leave these bodies. It is like we have a cancer of the soul When we were justified, the cancer's spread stopped. It can no longer continue its forward march to consume us. However, it has not been excised. It remains. And the damage it has already done - while in the process of being healed - is not healed all at once. And, its propensity to break out given even the slightest chance is always present. What he have though, is a pronouncement now of our FINAL diagnosis.

The object in this is that we can be JOYFUL as we set about the lifelong work of co-laboring with the Spirit in attacking the strongholds of sin within us. Sometimes, we will suffer great wounds in that battle - but ultimate victory is promised. Sometimes, we suffer "fatal" wounds in the battle, but because we have eternal life - not temporary eternal life" - after we suffer a death blow, we rise up yet again to fight until at last we conquer.

The Believer HAS to live in the full knowledge that a. Sin will be with him to the end, and b. That God has promised when this is over - we WILL be conformed to Christ's image. He cannot fail, even though we fail constantly. Christ is our ONLY righteousness, we have none of our own. We rest in His, and do not plunge ourselves into the terrifying depths of our own remaining sin.

In this regard, the Puritans, the Pietistic Lutherans, the Perfectionistic theology of Methodism and the Salvation Army and Pentecostal Holiness and other ALL went too far.

Ron Rosenbladt tells of Professor Mansky who used to start a freshman course in Christianity every year with this digest of Christian thought:

Rome = Law
Lutheranism = Law/Gospel
Evangelical & Wesleyanism = Law/Gospel/Law

In other words, salvation in Rome consists all in law. In Luther's theology, it began in Law bringing us to and end of our selves, despairing of hope - and then Gospel turning us to trust in Christ and staying there. Evangelicalism & Wesleyanism said: Yes, the law drives us to Christ in despair, then we are saved by believing the Gospel, and then we go back to the Law for help in sanctification. THAT is the error. Not remaining in the Gospel. The Believer must live there, not simply begin there. In fact, if I might improve on Luther's thought - it should be Law - and when the Law has done its work - Gospel - and then Spirit. Actually trusting the indwelling Spirit to hold sin at bay, and gradually bring us to Christ's likeness. Anything else will always find either ourselves as individuals, or the Church trying to take the role of the Holy Spirit and produce the results by other means. It is a deadly deception.

We are holy IN Christ - and thus FREE in Him - and so we can go on seeking to walk with Him without any fear of condemnation ever again. This is what it means to believe the Gospel. And precious few of us really live there anymore.

Pastor Reid's blog can be found here, http://responsivereiding.com/

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Saturday, June 27, 2009

Sound Theology?

Sound Theology?

The following is from Spurgeon's sermon,"Plain Words with the Careless" No. 778. Luke 8:28.

A man may know a great deal about true religion,
and yet be a total stranger to it.

He may know that Jesus Christ is the Son of
God, and yet he may be possessed by a devil;
no, he may be a den for a whole legion of devils.

Mere knowledge does nothing for us but puff us up.
We may know, and know, and know, and so
increase our responsibility, without bringing
us at all into a state of salvation.

Beware of resting in head-knowledge!

Beware of relying upon mere orthodoxy, for without
love to Jesus, with all your correctness of doctrine,
you will be a sounding brass and a tinkling cymbal.

It is well to be sound in the faith, but the
soundness must be in the heart as well
as in the head.

There is as ready a way to destruction by the road of orthodoxy as by the paths of heterodoxy.

Hell has thousands in it who were never heretics.

Remember that the devils "believe and tremble."

There are no sounder theological believers than
devils, and yet their conduct is not affected by
what they believe, and consequently they still
remain at enmity to the Most High God.

A mere head-believer is on a par therefore with
fallen angels, and he will have his portion with
them forever unless grace shall change his heart.

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Friday, June 26, 2009

Blogger Time Out

I was originally going to take some time off from blogging during July and August in order to read and enjoy some books and to get some things done around the house - and also to just enjoy the Summer. Well, a new twist has been added to my non-blogger summertime experience. You see my wife works in the Human Resources department where I work. As it turns out yesterday, while at work, she overheard a conference call between two of her supperiors, and SHE was one of the topics of their conversation. Yes they were tossing around the idea of laying her off this coming Tuesday when this latest round of layoffs draws to a close. Having been there twice myself I was able to know the feelings she was experiencing - feelings of not being wanted anymore. She has received rave reviews from bosses and fellow employees over the years, but business is so very bad right now that many heads, including hers, must roll. Please pray for my dear wife.

P.S. I will be shutting down this blog for those two months in just a couple of days. The comments will be shut off. I will read emails a couple times a week. My blogger partners on this blog can call me anytime they wish. I'd be HAPPY to hear from you. Let's not lose contact, k?

Tuesday, June 23, 2009

Back to Normalcy?

Well, I've got to go into work one hour early today. The reason is we have a grief counsellor coming in today to show us how to be around our boss as he comes back to work after burying his eighteen year old daughter. He's planning on coming back either tomorrow or Thursday. All I could do at the funeral parlor this past Sunday was give him a bear-hug. He wasn't expecting that from me, but it came from my heart. Now we all must be instruments in his life to get him back to "normalcy". I just can't imagine...

Wednesday, June 17, 2009

Over In An Instant

I just got some sad but expected news this morning: My boss's daughter died from her injuries sustained in a terrible car accident this past Saturday night. She was just 18 years old - the same as my son. In fact they both graduated highschool at the same time almost exactly one year ago. She was a freshman in college this year. I saw pictures of the car yesterday. There was almost nothing left of it. I can't imagine what my boss and his family are going through...

Saturday, June 13, 2009

Challenge for Gary McNees

Gary,
I came to the Doctrines of Grace wholly independent of the writings of Calvin or Agustine, or anybody else for that matter. It started with Romans 8-9, just the plain reading of those chapters. From what I see you are pretty weak in the scriptures. I challenge you to go without appealing to extra-biblical writings to defend your position. I challenge you to go without quoting the works of other men to defend your anti-Calvinist position. I'll do the same in defense of the Doctrines of Grace. Are you up for it? Do you have the courage? It will be just you and me. man to man.

Thursday, June 11, 2009

Okay, Alvin and Gary McNees

The following was a post from my blog way back when...

Tuesday, April 11, 2006Spurgeon on Assurance "The Holy Spirit, who enabled me to believe, gave me peace through believing. I felt as sure that I was forgiven as before I felt sure of condemnation. I had been certain of my condemnation because the Word of God declared it, and my conscience bore witness to it, but when the Lord justified me, I was equally certain by the same witness. The Word of the Lord in scripture saith, "He that believeth on Him is not condemned," and my conscience bore witness that I believed, and that God in pardoning me was just. Thus I had the witness of the Holy Spirit and also my own conscience, and these two agreed in one."

Taken From C.H.Spurgeon Autobiography: Vol.1 "The Early Years" page 92

In this same paragraph Spurgeon goes on to put down the teachings of a certain Dr. Johnson who held to the idea that no man could have assurance of faith. Spurgeon said that such a man was no reliable judge of theology. He added that Dr. Johnson should have studied his Bible a little more, and have a little more enlightenment of the Holy Spirit, then he too would have come to know his own pardon. I whole heartedly agree!


alvin said...
Hi Mark I also want God's blessings for you, and what I mean by that is that you would come to the knowledge of the truth. Just that short quote you gave by Spurgeon shows that he was deceived in thinking that someone could be saved without knowing they were. If Spurgeon was saved it was in spite of Calvinism. I have read he did not preach consistent Calvinism but was still married to it. God is not obligated to ones who believe biblical language even if they are sincere. As I brought up Max Locado who is dearly loved by many people but has bought into a lie. It's only when we believe biblical truth that God is obligated to keep His promise. Calvinism is a man-made system which makes God out to make "Horrible Decrees" which is neither consistent with His love for all people and His provision for all people in giving a sincere call for anyone who desires to take of the water of life freely and live! Mark you do not believe that God would really give a gift of eternal life without getting back some kind of return in this life. That is what Calvinism is all about "works" that MUST happen if one is truly saved. The Scriptures show clearly that ones were taken home early who were making a mockery out of discipleship either by getting drunk and the Lord's table or lying to the Holy Spirit. I lived pretty much for myself from age 12 to age 38 and you would have had a hard time by my works proving I was saved. Of course God let me do it my way if that's what I wanted to do by learning the hard way that His way was best. I work with a Mormon who would make most Christians look bad. He treats everyone kindly and is just a great guy but rejects a free gift and is working his way to heaven. Anyone looking at his life would think for sure he is saved by his fruit . . . .he looks just like a Calvinist little lamb. I don't see any difference they are both deceived in thinking they can't just take the water of life freely but theirs MORE to it and it's called WORKS. Mark if you believed what we are saying here you would not be fighting against it would you? So your not fooling anyone but yourself. The sufficient proposition we are putting forth here is that anyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God. And the word believe means just that, to believe Jesus is stating the truth in a verse like John 3:16. No word games or pouring the water down ones throat. alvin
June 10, 2009 2:24 PM

Gary said...
Hi Alvin:I started to respond to Mark twice and twice I decided that I didn't have the right thing to say.You are perceptive. Lets see what if any response we get from Mark.If he is ANY kind of Calvinist he will reject what you said.Gary McNees
June 10, 2009 3:41 PM

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Tuesday, June 09, 2009

Novelty?

The following is from that latter comments on"Free Grace Theology Blog". They are from a man who claims to know Calvinism backwards and forward, a man who claims that Calvinists follow the man Calvin instead of the Bible. Let's see if you can pick up on the irony here -

"This is very easy to say. Just think about the fact that nearly EVERY, pastor, teacher, commentary, systematic theology, confession, of EVERY Christian denomination teaches doctrine which would make it impossible for anyone to ACCEPT what we teach! Just think that there are hundreds of verses in the Bible which SEEM to contradict Free Grace Theology, and ALL of them are "explained" in such a manner by almost all that they rule out the Free Grace interpretation. Further, even the very few denominations, (Once Saved Always Saved Baptist churches are one exception), still in the large part teach a "muddled gospel." Even most of them teach that if one apostatizes completely, and denies Christ, he was not saved, although this is contradicted by their Once Saved Always Saved doctrine. Refined Free Grace theology is a very rare teaching. I fully believe that Free Grace Theology is the only true soteriology, but I do not think that the very good exegesis of verses which SEEM to deny Free Grace Theology are easily come by. I believe that Zane and Bob and others at Grace Evangelical Society have been a real gift to the church, a gift which by the way, is either not known or rejected by most of Christendom. "

"This is what I mean. The same is true of John 11:25-27. The truth that Zane pointed out is obvious AFTER it is explained. The same is true of I John 5:1. I think that millions upon millions have read John 3:16, and I John 5:1 and considered that they believed them. I know I did. I didn't see the obvious in these passages even after I was saved for a long time. It has not been until recently, (in the last few years: that the obvious has become obvious.) Grace Evangelical Society's major goal has been to teach the obvious - that eternal life is given by faith alone in Christ alone. There have been numerous JOTGES papers directed to this point. Hundreds of pages have been spent exegeting verses which SEEM to deny our Free Grace understanding. It seems very likely that a person who is sincerely seeking light on this subject could have a very difficult time reaching the truth when every commentary, systematic theology, Bible teacher, and preacher is teaching that it is not true. After all, there are lengthy passages which SEEM to contradict our understanding of all these verses. Sure, they can be explained, by good exegetes, like Zane, Bob, and others from Grace Evangelical Society but the reasoning is certainly not trivial nor it is obvious."

"I guess I should rephrase my position. I believe that millions of professing Christians THINK that they believe John 3:16 who don't. And they will never come to that realization until we confront them show them that they really do not believe it. BUT it is not John 3:16 in isolation which will ever change their minds. They are too deeply embedded in error. To be convinced of the truth they need to have teaching about the "one drink," never thirst. Eats bread never hunger, etc. There are Greek "experts" which teach that the present tense of "believe" pisteuo, means "continue to believe," which supports Arminianism and Calvinism. A very recent book, "Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics" by Daniel B. Wallace, professor at Dallas Theological Seminary, teaches this error. And of course, almost ALL other Greek grammars also teach this error, Since both Arminianism and Calvinism and almost every other denomination teach this. In one of Zane's talks, (papers) he cites an older Greek authority who shows that this is wrong."

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Sunday, June 07, 2009

A Classic Colin Quote

BTW: Don't let the doctrine of reprobation frighten you. It simply means that those who show that they never wanted to be saved and who loved darkness rather than light and their sins rather than God were passed by and given their heart's desire. It really is as simple as that.

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Saturday, May 30, 2009

The Carnal Christian: Wayne and Mark Consider the Issue

The following discusion took place on another blog.

Mark said - the “carnal Christians” in Corinth… What is the standard? Christ Himself? Then wouldn’t we all be “carnal” in comparison? Hodges and Ryrie suggest that one who once professed Christ can even lose faith and become hostile to the things of God for the remainder of their lives. Hmmm. Where in the Bible do they see such an example? Certainly not in Corinth. Even these folk “[came] behind in no gift” and were “waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ”. 1 Cor. 1:7. It says that Paul praised them because they remembered him in all things and kept the ordinances as he delivered them to them. 1 Cor. 11:2. What about that great chapter, 2 Cor. 7:7 where we read of their earnest desire, their mourning, their fervent mind toward Paul. What about the repentance mentioned in verse 9?

For the Free Grace Theology proponent’s definition of the “carnal Christian” well, he can’t point to the Corinthian Church.

Wayne said - I guess we all use filters to a certain extent when we read Scripture. I hope we can agree that when the Scriptures use the term “in Christ”, it refers to a characteristic that all saved believers have. IOW all saved and redeemed people are in Christ. Certainly the Bible refers to infants in Christ, but the term “infants” points to a condition that is not permanent.
When a word search of “in Christ” is done a very long list of passages in many different New Testament books reveal a lot about the attributes of those who are redeemed and in Christ. I will not go through them, as they are clear in their meaning. One theme is repeated over and over and that is those who are in Christ Jesus are changed people that have different attitudes and behaviors. They are certainly not sinless and I think you are mistaken when you say, ” This really does get down to an issue of whether or not a christian can sin…and for how long?” No, the carnal Christian issue really gets down to whether a saved redeemed person can remain unchanged after his regeneration and show no effects of the indwelling Holy Spirit for the rest of his life. Sin is not the issue. Good works are not the issue. A new creation is the issue as 2 Cor. 5:17 points out. The issue is can the Holy Spirit be a total failure in His ministry of regeneration and indwelling believers? If the Holy Spirit can totally fail in making a person a new creation in Christ, then Paul is wrong and some people are saved but remain the same people they were before being saved.
This view denies the power of God and asserts that a regenerate person can thwart the will of God. It is one thing to assert through free will that God allows some to reject salvation although they have the ability to accept. However, it is quite another to suggest that God is powerless to change a persons’ heart when he clearly states that is exactly his intention in many places in the New Testament.

Mark said - If one is going to hold to the notion that one can profess Christ and then go on to live a life unresponsive to Christ, only to use 1 Cor. 3:1-4 as a foundation for that notion, then my challenge is that you must be consistent and go on to consider ALL of the information provided in both Corinthian leters. To do that is to allow oneself to do a REAL wordstudy.

Wayne said - Mark has certainly shown conclusively that the condition Paul spoke of in 1 Cor. 3 was not a permanent condition as 2 Cor. 7:9 As it is, I rejoice, not because you were grieved, but because you were grieved into repenting. For you felt a godly grief, so that you suffered no loss through us. points out as well.

You say that, “Mark and Wayne are saying some curious things about carnality. …both seeming to think Christians can and cannot be carnal.” A quick skimming of my comments will show that the views I have toward carnality are coming directly from Scripture which indicates that all saved men are regenerate, all regenerate men are new creations in Christ, all men who are in Christ are sons of God, all sons of God are led by the Spirit, and so on. The carnal Christian view that I and Scripture takes exception with is the position that a saved Christian can choose not to be a disciple and reject the lordship of Christ Jesus totally. This is a huge difference from a Christian having a battling indwelling sin. It is not a curious position at all. It is a Biblical position that is supported by Scripture.

To extrapolate and say, “Saved sinners continue to sin. Therefore, a saved sinner can totally reject being a disciple of Christ and sin at will without repentance.” is not a Biblical teaching in anywhere in Scripture. The process of discipleship is called sanctification and the Bible clearly shows sanctification to be a part of grace and all who are saved as shown by Paul in 2 Thess. 2:13 But we ought always to give thanks to God for you, brothers beloved by the Lord, because God chose you as the firstfruits to be saved, through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth. are indeed sanctified by the Spirit. They are led by the Spirit (Romans 8:14).
Therefore, I must ask the following question: Is the Bible also saying some curious things about carnality?

Mark said - An entire system of thought is in the balances here. My comments need to be hit head-on. I will not be veered off of my observations on the Corinthian church.

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