Dispensationalism And The Bible - By Jeremy Weaver
Dispensationalism And The Bible
By Jeremy Weaver
Let me say first off that this is not about all Dispensationalists. If you are a MacArthur type Dispensationalist who actually leaves Scripture in it's place and does not try to force it into different dispensations, then kudos to you. Keep up the good work.
For the rest of you, I am weary of reading that this verse or that verse is not for this dispensation, therefore any theology that comes from it to support what I believe and discount what you believe is bunk. Let me respond by saying, "That is bunk." Stop dividing Scripture. That is not what Paul told Timothy to do.
Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. (2Ti 2:15) NKJV
Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth. (2Ti 2:15) ESV
Both of these verses say the same thing. The NKJV renders the phrase 'rightly dividing the word of truth', while the ESV renders the phrase, 'rightly handling the word of truth'. Both phrases mean the same thing. They mean to state the truth of Scripture. They do not mean to divide verses, chapters, or books into separate categories of 'for today', 'for yesterday', or 'for the future'.
We are to do this by studying Scripture and then rightly applying Scripture to whatever age, epoch, or dispensation we live in. All of Scripture is for all Christians. The only divisions that should ever be made are divisions that are stated in Scripture. Take, for instance, the law. The law was given to Moses for the children of Israel. It wasn't divided up into sections of moral, ceremonial, and so forth. However it is clearly marked out by Paul in Galatians to have specific limitations. Those limitations are till Christ comes and till faith is revealed.
Where is a clear division like that in the book of Matthew? Where is it in Revelation? It doesn't exist. Therefore, the books of Matthew and Revelation are for New Covenant believers. All of them. Jew and Gentile.
So...STOP IT!!!
Jeremy Weaver
posted by mark pierson at 7:46 AM
15 Comments:
This was excellent, Jeremy Weaver!
May 04, 2006 7:53 AM
mornimg Mark,
and thank you for stopping by,and for the comment 2! :)
have a great day!
friend
May 04, 2006 10:42 AM
Janice: Bless you!
May 04, 2006 10:59 AM
I am sure this angry post will persuade all the professors at Dallas Theological Seminary and other Dispensational colleges to retire.
Every Blessing in Christ
Matthew
May 04, 2006 12:18 PM
Matthew:
An interesting thought!
Progresive dispensationalism anyone?
May 04, 2006 12:37 PM
Since I'm pretty new to this, could someone please supply me with an explanation of 'dispensationalism?'
Thanks much~
May 04, 2006 1:50 PM
Gayla, Dispensationalism is a theological system that makes a clear and consistent distinction between the Church and the nation of Israel. It favours a literal interpretation of the Bible and is committed to a Premillennial view of Christ's second coming.
Every Blessing in Christ
Matthew
May 05, 2006 3:45 AM
Mark, the problem with Progressive Dispensationalism is that insists that the Church can be found in Old Testament prophecy. It refuses to accept that the Church is a mystery hidden in God.
Every Blessing in Christ
Matthew
May 05, 2006 3:47 AM
Who are the major dispensers of Dispensationalism?
May 05, 2006 6:42 AM
Matthew: Here is what I am working on-- Romans 11:16-24- The Gentile believers (the wild olive tree) being grafted into the root and fatness, the cultivated olive tree. The olive tree existed before, back to Old Testament times. Now the Gentiles are being grafted in. One olive tree, one people of God, dating back to the Old Testament.
In Ephesians 2:11-22 Gentiles were aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenets of promise, but now are brought near by Christ, He made both one, He has created in Himself one new man, from the two, in one body...
In John 10:16- Jesus said that He had other sheep (Gentiles) that were not of this fold (Israel) that he had to bring in so that there would be one flock and one Shepherd.
In Galatians 3:28- We are all one in Christ, no more Jew and Gentile, Now Gentiles too are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise...
In short, I believe there has always been a one people of God, that has been His plan all along- Isaiah 53:6 The Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.
May 05, 2006 7:16 AM
Thanks~
May 05, 2006 9:48 AM
Mark, what is the Church?
Joe, historically, the Brethren, the Scofield Bible and Lewis Spencer Chafer did the dispensing.
More recent advocates include John Walvoord (deceased), Charles Ryrie and Robert Lightner.
Dallas Theological Seminary is the greastest centre of Dispensational theology, but it has toned it down since Progressive Dispensationalism came on the scene.
Every Blessing in Christ
Matthew
May 05, 2006 12:12 PM
Matthew: I'm trying to understand your question to me. Please restate it and what it is that you are driving at.
Thank you for taking the time to communicate here.
Mark
May 05, 2006 12:35 PM
Mark, the question was very simple. What is the Church?
How we can discuss the subject of the Church in relation to prophecy unless we know we are talking about the same thing.
Every Blessing in Christ
Matthew
May 05, 2006 5:21 PM
Matthew, when I say the following:
"Matthew: Here is what I am working on-- Romans 11:16-24- The Gentile believers (the wild olive tree) being grafted into the root and fatness, the cultivated olive tree. The olive tree existed before, back to Old Testament times. Now the Gentiles are being grafted in. One olive tree, one people of God, dating back to the Old Testament.
In Ephesians 2:11-22 Gentiles were aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenets of promise, but now are brought near by Christ, He made both one, He has created in Himself one new man, from the two, in one body...
In John 10:16- Jesus said that He had other sheep (Gentiles) that were not of this fold (Israel) that he had to bring in so that there would be one flock and one Shepherd.
In Galatians 3:28- We are all one in Christ, no more Jew and Gentile, Now Gentiles too are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise...
In short, I believe there has always been a one people of God, that has been His plan all along- Isaiah 53:6 The Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all." ...
What I am saying is very similar to the position that Wayne Grudem takes. It is a position that I arived at on my own. Then when I read Wayne Grudems systematic theology I was in complete agreement with him.
I believe the church is made up of believers from all time. Hebrews 11 is part of the church in my view.I notice that David called the Messiah his lord in Psalm 110. I notice that Abraham rejoyced when he saw Christ's day as we see in John 8. Jesus said that many kings and righteous men longed to hear and see the things (Himself) that the apostles heard and saw.
I shall write more later. I shall be at work and doing errands all day today.
May the Lord bless you my friend!
May 06, 2006 9:33 AM
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