More on false disciples…..
1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.
John in this passage describes some disciples who were not really disciples. He clearly states that if these disciples were true disciples, then they would have continued with us! But they didn’t and John said this makes it plain they were not disciples at all.
Isn’t this the same thing Jesus was stating in John 8:30-32?
Therefore, doesn’t this passage show that these were disciples in name only and not true disciples?
posted by jazzycat at 8:10 AM
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November 04, 2008 8:21 AM
In James 2:14 James speaks of the same concept when he says, "What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith........."
The point is there is a difference between claiming to be something and actually being something. Again the parable of the four soils points this out as does Matthew 7:21-23. This is a very consistent N.T. teaching.
November 04, 2008 8:39 AM
Please note the deleted comment has nothing to do with serious discussion on this issue. Some mockers of Christianity come by here at random and leave comments.
November 04, 2008 8:41 AM
Here is Ryrie's comment on John 8:31-
"believed". Likely only a profession because of what they said in verse 33.
Ryrie Study Bible (KJV), page 1604
Here is what J. Vernon McGee said about John 8:31-32 - Faith alone saves, but the faith that saves is not alone. It will produce something. After a person believes on the Lord Jesus Christ, he will want to "continue in His Word." The proof of faith is continuing with the Savior.
THRU THE BIBLE, with J. Vernon McGee, Vol. 4, page 419
November 04, 2008 10:53 AM
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