THE CREATOR
The Mountains so high, the rivers that flow
The flowers with their scent, the wintry snow.
The birds singing their song, the wind fierce and calm,
The beauty of Salvation, I sit in your palm.
The bright stars in the sky, the water, the land,
The many animals all so unique, our fellow man,
The homes we live in, the food we eat,
You have not left anything you promised, incomplete.
The bible you have given us Old and New
we cherish the words that flow through and through,
your sword pierces our heart and pierces our mind
and opens up the heart of the lost and blind.
I'm in Awe of you Majesty, I'm in Awe of your strength
Your love is for always, you forgive at any length.
Your the Lamb of God, Your the sacrifice of your sheep
your blood set us free, this is the promise you will keep.
Cristina
(Mark asked me to post this)
posted by Baptist Girl at 12:55 PM
34 Comments:
Is anybody banned from commenting on it?
January 21, 2008 1:06 PM
Christians:
Please do not respond to him. Do not answer him in the folly of his way.
January 21, 2008 1:11 PM
He has been asked three times to not comment here!
January 21, 2008 1:26 PM
Do not yon United States believeth in freedom of expression?
January 21, 2008 1:32 PM
Mark, since you publicly asked that we not respond to Maalie, I must publicly respond by saying, in all due respect, that I will comment to and answer questions(to the best of my ability) from him or anyone else, as the Holy Spirit leads me to do so. If you don't want any exchange with him on your blog, I will respect your wishes on that and will converse elsewhere.
Personally, I'm not in agreement with banning people, unless someone uses profanity or vulgar language.
And I'll repeat what I said on the other thread. We CANNOT and SHOULD NOT expect unbelievers to act like anything other than unbelievers. (That's not a slam against unbelievers, it's just a fact) Their baseline is NOT Scripture. I think our job is to extend a little more grace and patience in our presenting them with the gospel of Christ.
January 21, 2008 1:40 PM
Thank you gayla. Thou art a gracious lady.
January 21, 2008 1:50 PM
Ok Gayla, have at it. Go for it.
Wayne, if he gets crude, as he has before, please feel free to clean up the mess.
I'm off to work now.
January 21, 2008 1:55 PM
Oh no, not more sheep's blood (in that hymn). It honestly gives me the creeps.
On Sunday I was told that God gave us sheep for the warmth of the wool, and in some places they make cheese from the milk. And we may use the meat if we are compassionate and respectful in their slaughter. But definitely not washing in their blood.
Now THAT is my kind of Christianity.
I have to go, early dance class today. C ya!
January 21, 2008 2:08 PM
"your sword pierces our heart and pierces our mind
and opens up the heart of the lost and blind."
Amen. The Word is sharper than a razor, and it cuts deep. And God cuts us so that He can break our spirits, for the Lord says, " .. to this man/woman will I look, even to him/her that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembles at My Word." Isa. 66:2
"Unto Him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in His own blood", be all honor, adoration, and glory! Amen.
January 21, 2008 2:33 PM
Donsands, I fear that you won't retain the attentions of good, honest-living, compassionate and innocent people like Clara if you keep on making incantations about blood.
You are free to quote your authority, and me mine. Did you bother to follow the links I put up on the the last post, and dare you embark on a course of study to understand them? I suspect that you haven't the courage to do so.
It seems to me that the two voices here that have any degree of understanding belong to Halfmom and to Gayla. Is it coincidental that they are both women?
January 21, 2008 2:51 PM
" making incantations about blood."
No, I was quoting Scripture, and then giving Christ praise. And I was doing so because of the good words Cristina wrote.
Do you believe quoting the Holy Scripture is making incantations?
January 21, 2008 3:06 PM
> Do you believe quoting the Holy Scripture is making incantations?
Firstly, thank you for responding. No, of course not, the words of any book are not in themselves an incantation. It is the manner in which they are delivered which is the incantation.
So HAVE you looked at my own sources of authority - the peer-reviewed scientific literature? I fear not lest it opens your eyes to real, tangible evidence.
January 21, 2008 3:12 PM
I just wanted to make a comment to Clara in case there was some misunderstanding along the way.
Christians do no literally/physically wash in lamb's blood, or the blood of anything else for that matter.
Jesus is called, "The Lamb of God." That is metaphor. Jesus is not a literal/physical lamb. He did shed His blood as a sacrifice for sin, and we are spiritually cleansed by that blood, or washed in it, as it were.
I hope that helps, as you seem to continue to be hung up on that point.
January 21, 2008 3:48 PM
> Jesus is not a literal/physical lamb
Gayla, I think we are getting somewhere at last. What else would you indicate that we should not take too literally?
January 21, 2008 4:30 PM
I'm just leaving work, Maalie. I'll have to pick this up later at home...
January 21, 2008 4:32 PM
The following is a passage from a sermon by Dr. Ligon Duncan of First Presbyterian Church, Jackson, Miss. on Matthew 7:6 Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you.
And the first truth is this, and I want to say this as provocatively as I can. The Lord Jesus teaches here that Christians must discriminate. Now, discriminate is a word that carries with it a lot of connotations in our context in our day and age. We live in a day and age where discrimination is the last and only sin. You can do anything you want as long as you don’t discriminate.
The Lord Jesus is saying, Christian, you must discriminate. He is calling for spiritual discrimination. He is calling for what we might call a holy discrimination. In other words, He is saying, Christian, you must distinguish between those who are obstinate in their rejection of the Gospel, and those who are open to the Gospel. Christian, you must discern the type of person who is permanently and consistently opposed to the message of the Gospel of the kingdom. And those who are open, He is calling on us to differentiate. And that goes against the grain of everything in our society right now. But it is the call of the Lord Jesus Christ. Notice His word, do not give what it is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine. Lest they trample them under their feet and turn and tear you to pieces. Having just taught that we are not to be censorious, Jesus adds that we must acknowledge that there are real differences between people. The saints are not to set themselves up as arbitrary judges. But neither are we to be simpletons either. We are to recognize that there are spiritual differences in the hearts of people.
January 21, 2008 4:54 PM
Hello from Lat. 39.46N, 125.30W, off Ca now. Intercepted a narcotics-runner up from Mexico. I assure you the name of Sweet Jesus was on the lips of every sailor in the boarding crew.
Clara, stick with it kid, thanks for the emails, keep them coming!
That guy Maalie seems to find his spirituality in nature, I'd say even Pagan, all that stuff on his blog about the solstice. We Unitarians would welcome him, even if you despise him.
January 21, 2008 4:56 PM
Gayla and everyone,
Maalie has been banned and asked not comment here three times. The first time he was banned by Mark for mockingly using a crude sexual term. The second time he was asked to refrain when he mocked and lied about JD after JD and I both had shown that he was playing loose and dishonest with the facts and continued to mock. I even re-printed JD’s entire comment to show the lie. Here is the comments he had immediately before I banned him…………
And certainly it needs to be brought up-to-date as conceded (whether he likes it or not) by your fellow pastor and self-styled prophet.
You invite comments, I ask the questions. How about evidence for the Great Flood, as starters, please? I build my life around experience and evidence, not mythology.
And……………….
All religious cults have an "if:then" scenario.
If [you don't do as we say] then [something awful will happen to you]
If [you don't join our cult] then [you will swim in the lake of fire]
If [you don't put money in our collection plate] then [we won't accept you as a member of our cult]
If [you walk under a ladder] then [you will have bad luck]
It's called indoctrination. It's called control. It's called exploitation. But, above all, it's called SUPERSTITION.
The third time he was banned was on the Saturday post when he continued to mock certain Old Testament passages that really have little bearing on anything but make good mocking fodder. Maalie has not shown the common courtesy and decency to honor Mark’s or my wishes. Therefore, after doing some serious meditation on Scripture and the passage by Ligon Duncan posted above, I have concluded that Mark was Biblically correct to ban him initially and I request that Maalie move his dialogue with Gayla and anyone else that wishes to converse with to some other blog. I will delete comments as necessary until Mark returns.
Maalie all future comments by you will be deleted when I am tending this blog.
January 21, 2008 5:09 PM
Seattle Boy,
You said..... We Unitarians would welcome him, even if you despise him.
No one despises Maalie. This is your final warning to cease in these slanderous personal attacks or I will ban you on my watch.
January 21, 2008 5:12 PM
More from Dr. Duncan's sermon on Matthew 7:6.........
Some will respond, but others will be obstinate in their rejection of it and so the Lord Jesus says, be careful when you find the person who is set, who is obstinately refusing or attacking the gospel, you must not waste your time on spiritual council. On those who are stubborn, on those who are impracticable, on those who are obdurate, or hardheaded. Notice the words of Proverbs speak to this. In Proverbs 9, verse 7, we are told, he who corrects a scoffer, gets dishonor for himself, and he who reproves a wicked man gets insults for himself. In Proverbs 9:8, we read, do not reprove a scoffer or he will hate you, but instead reprove a wise man and he will love you. ……………
But to those who are obstinate, those who are as the Old Testament says, a fool, those who are fools will not respond with anything but insults. When the gospel is given to those who are empty-hearted, and hardheaded, they will respond by insulting the gospel, or ignoring the gospel. And the Lord Jesus makes it clear, that we are not to waste our spiritual council on those. Now that is a hard word. It is almost hard to believe. It is hard to believe that the Lord Jesus Christ could say something so, so blunt, so terrifying as that, but that He does. He teaches us that we must not subject the gospel to the abuse and the derision and the indifference of those who are obstinately opposed to it.
January 21, 2008 5:34 PM
Wayne, as I told Mark, I respect your decision, and his as well. Since y'all were continuing to leave Maalie's comments up, I assumed it was ok to respond to him.
I had no idea about the vulgar language comment. I stand corrected.
January 21, 2008 5:35 PM
Jazzycat, if you only knew what me and some sailors had to do on MY watch last night, protecting YOUR coastline, you might choose a different form of words.
Ok, may be not despise, but certainly not welcome either. I'm due on deck now. I suppose this will be deleted when I come off watch...
January 21, 2008 5:36 PM
Seattle Boy,
When I look at all your more recent comments and your basic attitude toward this blog, I will ask you to not to comment here anymore. It is obvious that it can serve no good purpose for either of us.
January 21, 2008 5:46 PM
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January 21, 2008 6:36 PM
Ye smiters. Open thine eyes and becometh compassionate.
January 22, 2008 4:16 AM
I'm just looking in to say goodbye. I expect I am on your hit list anyway. I thought I might find fellowship here but it's a horrible place, so I will simply leave you "Christians" to get on with it among yourselves.
Blessings.
January 22, 2008 4:38 AM
Fare ye well Clara. Ye is a bonny wee girl and no mistake.
January 22, 2008 6:08 AM
Seattle Boy, thine grammar appalleth me. Tis not 'me and some sailors had to do' but 'some sailors AND I had to do'.
Teachest not thou grammar in yon United States?
January 22, 2008 6:11 AM
Teachest not thou grammar in yon United States?
And thy grammar is equally egregious. By way of syntax, you were asking Seattle boy whether he teaches grammar in the United States or not.
What's with constant misappropriation of the Elizabethan English?
In thy haste thou didst err greatly...
January 22, 2008 6:48 AM
I standeth corrected yon Scribe
January 22, 2008 7:54 AM
Around here Wayne's word is equal to mine. He has posted the thoughts of Dr. Duncan. I'm in complete agreement with what Wayne has posted. Therefore, going forward, we shall not engage those who are hostile to the gospel on this blog, period. You can look at this thread and figure out who I'm talking about.
January 22, 2008 8:52 AM
Thank you for your humility, Viking Warrior...
January 22, 2008 10:25 AM
He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgement: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he. Hallowed be His name.
January 22, 2008 12:33 PM
Greetings from Lat. 37.38N, Long. 123.40W, off San Fran.
Like Clara, I look in only to say farewell. And, like her, I came here for conversation. I appreciate my views maybe somewhat unorthodox but my opinions have gotten rejection and I expect this supplication to be deleted.
The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. Blessed be the Name of the Lord.
I shall remain loyal to my Lord, my country, my ship, and to you, in protecting your coastline. It can be lonely, frightening and very very tiring on the deck of a Coastguard Cutter, you might have spared a thought in your prayers.
May the Peace of the Lord be always with you.
January 22, 2008 2:29 PM
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